I once read on the back of a toilet door, ‘Fighting for peace is like f–king for virginity’. Imperialist countries do not go to war for peace but to exploit land and resources.
I travelled from Venezuela to Chile in the early eighties and saw and heard first hand the atrocities the American backed, trained and funded fascists did to ordinary people in just about all the Andean countries.
America follows the old adage ‘divide and conquer’. The best way to gain access to another country’s resources is to create civil war.
Have them kill one another off then it is easy to exploit their resources in the name of peace and ‘reconstruction’.
To get the war going the practice is to first support one side with arms and propaganda then commit an atrocity which is blamed on the ‘other’ side and before you know it it’s on for one and all.
This is what America does wherever it goes. They have been planning to invade the Middle East since the 1950s for its oil and gas but just haven’t been able to find a good excuse.
I would not be surprised if the chemical attacks in Syria were perpetrated by the CIA.
Now they have a good excuse to invade which means more people will be killed on both sides, innocent people, in the name of saving the people.
After the fiascos in Iraq and Afghanistan, the world is wary of the old excuses, this time they needed a good one. Australia’s own peace has been destabilised by joining with America in this insidious game.
I was, back then, travelling alone through the Andean countries with an Australian Army backpack.
On one occasion I was accosted by very aggro Peruvian males who thought I was American.
I felt my life was at risk until I explained to them that I was Australian, you know, ‘the land of the kangaroo’.
The moment they realised they released their grip on me, smiled and laughed and patted me on the back saying, ‘we are sister countries’ and walked off.
These people hated America with a passion and they had very good reasons for it.
In fact you couldn’t find one American traveller past Venezuela and I began to realise why.
The murderous torturer Pinochet who replaced the benevolent Dr Allende (who was assassinated by the CIA) as president of Chile was trained in Fort Benny along with many other fascist dictators propped up by America.
Once they had their ‘man’ at the top they could waltz in and exploit as many resources as possible.
Graeme Dunstan and the late Bryan Law are true heroes. They had the balls to stand up for their ethics and they only destroyed a machine that was going to destroy innocent people in America’s insidious, dishonest wars.
They did not sit comfortably at home behind their computers gullible and naive, willing to see the world in black and white and blindly believing the propaganda put out by the USA.
It seems that most Australians just can’t handle the truth.
Chantni Da Silva, Middle Pocket
Hello Chanti.
Very well presented argument and your observations of how things work. If only things were as simple as that. But coming from Fog pocket probably u need to read more past the idea of “making war on innocents” that may just make u think that bashing holes in Helicopters probably gets u the wrong kind of attention and solves nothing. Peace doesn’t make money is the mainstream notion and if innocents get in the way …well how come we are in their country in the first place – they may not be so innocent as u claim though this IS NOT my view. Focus on capitalism if u really think u can do something.
Sure some “sit behind our computers gullible and naive” but on balance it is so we can read and act on comments like yours. Thanks for your efforts to wake the silent majority.
SHIX-PAC SIBBOLETH
With six tins for pistons I started the engines
To fly down to Tysons and question Mike Zion
About just what went down on that hill..
But a camel-double was parked outside and
primed for this symposium
Where occidental sporting types
Hyped a cultural explosion:
So hate went east as love went west
and the good-guys and the baddies
Picked up the hands the dealer delt
As sights were oiled for Baghdad:
Some servants came and
Janna Wendt
to find the cheques Toulouse had sent
To the CIA or the government..
..whichever one was greater:
At the border Allan layed a wreath
To a deceased wicket keepers’ niece who,
apparently would have been a catch
Had she not slipped under covers:
Then some actor-copper threw a dummy punch at
Lucky Grylls’ funny paunch
Because this other dame had played a hunch
That it was a sort of a sortes story…
…So I scrolled the menu (as ya do)
I tryed to put the blame on you as
Tin-Pot Generals rancked around
Their medals pinned their metal down and
Never was there heard a sound
Untill this heathen opined…
…alas! alack! a sinning nation
an Atlas Axis spins libations
At last! a soldiers’ invitation
to a drunken sailors dream:
This is one of the silliest things I have ever read. Oh, let me count the ways….
SUPERPOWER EXPLOITS WORLD.
1. Cliché number 1: ” Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity.” Yes, in World War II we should have just let Hitler invade anywhere he liked. We should have let the Japanese conquer Australia. We should have let North Korea conquer South Korea because North Korea has just turned out so well hasn’t it!?! Because as we all know America is evil and always doing the worst things. And probably run by lizards. Go on, admit you think it’s true.
Handy hint: everyone in Vietnam now wishes North Vietnam had lost the war.
2. Cliché number 2: “I travelled from Venezuela to Chile in the early eighties and saw and heard first hand the atrocities the American backed, trained and funded fascists did to ordinary people in just about all the Andean countries”
Yes, evil Yankees want what’s worst for everybody, and everything wrong in South America is always someone else’s fault.
Yes, evil Yankees want what’s worst for everybody, and everything wrong in South America is always someone else’s fault.
In the early 80s there was a thing on called the Cold War. Some of you may have heard of it. Being a one-party dictatorship was considered to be ultra chic by certain half smart people. They organized guerrilla armies. These were backed up by a thing called the Soviet Union. Which was a very nasty place. In wars, even cold wars, bad things happen. You should remember that it was the Marxist idea to take over the whole world and convert it into a one-party state. That was an idea worth fighting against.
3. Cliché number 3: ” America follows the old adage ‘divide and conquer.’ The best way to gain access to another country’s resources is to create a civil war.”
Striking. I am trying to think of a single war where America, i.e. the USA, has set out to divide a country. If you are imagining Iraq and Afghanistan, the people in those places seem to divide themselves without any help from outside. The best way to gain access to another country’s resources is to buy them on the open market. Because that’s what they always cost anyway. You may like to know, if you really are dedicated to resource extraction, the very last thing you want is a civil war. Plays havoc with infrastructure.
4. Cliché number 4: “Have them kill one another off then it is easy to exploit their resources in the name of peace and ‘ reconstruction.’
Hmmm. This would be the fantasy that the USA has been exploiting the resources of which country? Exactly which Iraqi and Afghan resources are you pointing to? Your evidence for this being the rivers of gold being pulled out of the ground where precisely? Oh, that’s right. You don’t have any evidence. You just won’t admit that those people need no encouragement to kill one another off whatsoever.
5. Cliché number 5:
” To get the war going the practice is first to support one side with arms and propaganda then commit an atrocity which is blamed on the ‘other’ side and before you know it it is on for one and all.”
Fascinating, let us consider where this may have been done. The USA was supporting who with arms and propaganda before committing an atrocity where exactly? I know, I can’t think of one either. Oh, I get it, you just made this up. I gather you are pretending this is similar to events in the Syrian Civil War. So what you are saying is that the rebel forces fighting against the dictator Assad are the bad guys? I must remember that whenever I hear anyone calling for human rights and free elections. Monsters. But I guess you would say that there never would have been a democratic uprising were it not for the evil USA. Everyone in Syria would have just gone on living merrily under Assad. Here’s an idea. Pick a dictatorship and go and live there. No doubt you will love it just as much as the locals don’t.
6. Cliché number 6: ” This is what America does where ever it goes. They have been planning to invade the Middle East since the 1950s for its oil and gas but just haven’t been able to find a good excuse.”
Well bugger me. I can’t recall America doing any of those things in Europe or the Pacific or anywhere else for that matter and the fact is you can’t either. As for planning to invade the Middle East since the 1950s, this is another one of those fantasies inside your head isn’t it? Let’s have a little look at the reality of American policy.
You will probably want to join in with the poor me Moslem claim that the United States created the state of Israel in cooperation with Britain to facilitate their conquest of the Middle East. Which would make a lot of sense if the USA and/or the UK had actually armed Israel prior to 1948 and if the policy of the United States had been in accord with that of Britain, and shown evidence of a desire to conquer the Middle East. So this is where we get to look at the cut and paste version of “The case for US imperial policy involving the creation of the state of Israel.”
USA-UK-ISRAEL.
Firstly, is there any evidence that the USA and UK cooperated on Imperial policy in the Middle East, particularly to facilitate a US invasion?
Anyone who knows anything about Middle Eastern history knows about the Suez crisis in 1956. Then, the United States of America forced Great Britain to allow President Nasser of Egypt to nationalize the Suez Canal. The United Kingdom committed troops to fight for the canal zone and Israel went in to support them. The USA forced an embarrassing back down on the British. Anyone can read this history. Had the United States been interested in invading the Middle East or cooperating with Britain in Imperial policy, they would most certainly have supported British action in the Canal zone.
Is there any evidence that United States of America has always been dedicated to imperial conquest? Look at the reality. In 1945 only one country in the world possessed the atomic bomb. With the atom bomb, unrivaled industrial capacity, the world’s leading military technology, a huge fleet, in fact a level of military power the world had never seen, what did the USA do? It disarmed, which turned out to be a mistake when North Korea invaded South Korea and the USA had to scramble to come up with any military forces at all.
In 1946 the United States could have conquered and annexed the entire world and nothing could have stopped them. They did not. The reason? Because despite what legions of idiots claim, specifically Marxist idiots, the United States is not an historically imperialist country.
This is the bit where you say: ” Yes they are, they stole Texas and California from Mexico!” Yes, Mexico. Since Mexico was created out of the Spanish invasion of the Americas, you would then be saying that it was okay for the Spanish to invade the territory of indigenous Native American peoples such as the Apache, and that Mexican independence meant that any area invaded by the Spanish then legitimately belongs to Mexicans, right? Because the Mexican Empire is obviously okay because it’s, well, Mexican, right? Bullshit.
At the end of World War II the United States of America had vast numbers of tanks and warplanes, as did Britain for that matter. What did they do with them? The answer is, they scrapped them or even threw them into the sea. Which leads us onto the issue of arming Israel.
Didn’t the United States and United Kingdom arm Israel?
This is a perennial claim. It is completely confounded by the evidence.
The Supermarine Spitfire is one of the most famous aircraft of all time. At the end of the 2nd world war the British Royal Air Force had plenty of leftover Spitfires, along with Hawker Tempests and various other models. But they didn’t give any to Israel. In reality, the Egyptian Air Force had Spitfires, as did the Jordanian Air Force. Why? Because those countries militaries had been backed by Britain. When Jordan invaded Israel in 1948, British officers were with the troops that they had trained. That’s right, Jordanian troops.
The Israeli Air Force, were it backed by the UK or the USA would have been provided with some of the literally thousands of top class fighting machines that were scrapped. Or they could have been given some of the Vought F4U Corsairs that were dumped overboard. But that did not happen. Israel was forced to buy substandard aircraft from Czechoslovakia, the Avia S199, and the Spanish version of the BF 109 as well. Both of these fighters flew like dogs and had marginal engines. Why had they not been equipped with any of the plentiful surplus Allied war material?
Despite what some people think, there was never an intention on the part of the United States of America to see Israel as a proxy military presence in the Middle East.
6. Cliché number 6: ” I would not be surprised if the gas attacks in Syria were carried out by the CIA.”
Is there anything the CIA had not been accused of? A curious thing happened some years ago; a massive leak of confidential materials in the form of US diplomatic cables and military files. These were provided to Wikileaks. This was when we could have expected to have discovered a million dark secrets about what the dreadful United States of America was really up to. But it did not happen. Because despite the endless claims of drama types and people with overactive paranoid imaginations, the USA really does regulate the CIA, and the USA is not nearly as bizarrely interesting nor as fancifully evil and as some people would like to believe. To carry out a gas attack in a foreign country the CIA would have needed a level of government approval similar to a nuclear strike. In today’s leak laden environment, we would find out about it.
7. We will skip past the author’s projected personal hatred for the US, which sounds like Marxist resentment, and move onto Cliché Number 7: Dr Allende the Benevolent was assassinated by the CIA.
Allende.
At this point I have to declare a personal interest: I personally sympathize with those who say Allende should have been left alone and Pinochet should have been locked up. However, it is worth bearing in mind that Allende was a Marxist and liked posing with an AK-47. The same weapon with which he shot himself. This was in 1973. Communists were overrunning Vietnam, active in Laos and Thailand, pressing for power in much of Africa, had just been suppressed in Indonesia, and were a threat throughout South America. Communism was not and is not a joke. It is a nasty one party dictatorial system. It suppresses liberty and freedom of speech. I can easily understand why some people may react viscerally to any Marxist political movement.
It is acknowledged that the United States trained counterinsurgency personnel from Latin America who subsequently engaged in human rights abuses. It is also undeniably the case that Marxist cadres trained by the USSR and Cuba committed human rights violations. It was a war and terrible things were done.
At the end of the war we can assess not which side was pure – none was – but which system ultimately better served humanity. It is important to be stridently critical of the United States of America, but it is essential to realize that you can be stridently critical of the United States of America. This would not be possible under a Marxist regime.
In conclusion, it is fair to say with Nelson Mandela that “the United States has made mistakes in its foreign policy.” Not to mention its domestic policy. But to imply from this that “America” is a monoglot source of evil in the world is hysterical. This is important to realize now because dangerous political systems, some of them bound up with religion, are most certainly a threat to the lives and well-being of millions of people. Is anyone to help them? The answer is, that the people most likely to actually give a damn belong not to any one nation, but an awful lot of them do live in the USA.
Matt Hartley,
Byron Bay.