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I write to you in response to the article on the front page of The Echo relating to mandatory vax. I find it extremely ‘double standard’ that the workers in Australia have to be vaccinated, however, politicians don’t. My local member for Barwon recently sent me a message stating this fact when I asked what his stance was on mandatory vaccinations. He said his party was against it. I asked what the situation was for him and he said he had a choice but could opt out because of his high blood pressure as there was a danger for him. 

I would say to anyone who has been forced to get a vaccination due to their workplace demanding they get it, seek out workplace legal advice. Also go to the workplace commissioner who has recently, in parliament, totally slammed any workplace insisting on enforcing an experimental injection for their workplace and employees. The commissioner had totally disagreed with the prime minister in this matter.

 I hasten to add that the government through this mandate has forced all responsibility of adverse reactions due to this vaccination back to the businesses who insist on this. They have passed laws so all responsibility rests on the shoulders of businesses who insist on employees to do this.

 You only have to add up here these facts to know when the workplace commissioner totally disagrees with the PM, before long the employers with be in deep trouble legally over this.

Michelle Saunders, Byron Bay

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  1. I would totally agree with the workplace commissioner “slamming” the enforcement of an experimental injection. People who take part in medical trials should always do so on a totally voluntary basis. I doubt this occurred in parliament though as the commissioner doesn’t sit in parliament.

    With regard to the Covid 19 vaccines however the “experimental” term is irrelevant as they have gone through trial and approval processes. Additionally around 6.67 billion doses have now been administered globally.

    Yes the federal government avoids responsible for anything at all costs. However the Victorian government is in the process of mandating vaccination for MPs entering parliament.

  2. Sorry Liz, the “experimental” term is completely relevant.

    To say otherwise is completely false, you are spreading misinformation and doing our community a great dis-service.

    The jabs remain in “trial” phase until 2023. Those who have received the 6.67 billions doses are part of the experiment, those who have not taken the jab are part of the control group. Control group is an odd term given they are the ones they can’t control. Although the Govt is doing there best to.

    Joining the experiment as a choice, there is no long term data.

    The above is the science and fact.

    Treat all with kindness and respect and the truth they deserve please.

    • Steve I replied to you a couple of days ago but I think my post had too much reference material to get through so I’ll try again.

      We have to be rather careful with terminology here, especially with a word as commonplace and loosely interpreted as “experimental”. There are few certainties in life and experimentation is part of the world of pharmacology.

      What is glossed over in dismissing the Covid vaccines as “experimental” is a number of considerations that might allay the fear that science and regulators have thrown caution to the wind.

      1) Development of these vaccines has not been as rushed as might appear. Work on coronavirus vaccines started some years ago in response to SARS 1 and the historical warnings of a pandemic caused by a coronavirus being not an an “if” but a “when” .

      2) Instead of phases 1,2&3 occurring with long delays punctuated by touting for funding, business and governments threw money at the research with different phases occurring simultaneously.

      3) The vaccines in use in Australia have been through three phase trials.

      4) “ In December 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine became the first COVID-19 vaccine authorized for emergency use in the U.S … On 23 August 2021, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine reached a new milestone by receiving the first full approval of a COVID-19 vaccine in the U.S.” ( from health feedback.org website)

      5) The three vaccines in use in Australia have received regulatory (if provisional) approval from the Therapeutic Goods Administration.
      (I won’t risk being censored again here but it is worth checking out the TGA’s website to discover their stringent criteria for provisional approval)

      6) Given that scientists tell us that the history of vaccines indicates that adverse affects tend to happen in the first few weeks after vaccination we need to consider how “experimental” these vaccines are after 6.67 billion doses administered over the last 10months +.

      You like to quote often that “ the jabs remain in ‘trial’ phase until 2023”, I assume referring to the intention of Pfizer to continue studying its Phase three trial participants until this date. Reuters gives background on this common social media “gotcha” post : “ The post correctly notes that the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has been given an ‘estimated study completion date’ of Jan. 31, 2023 (here). For the COVID-19 vaccine created by Moderna, studies are expected to end on Oct. 27, 2022. However, it is standard practice for safety monitoring to continue after a vaccine has been approved for use.”

      The ongoing monitoring and reporting is indeed part of the TGA criteria. As well as safety this monitoring is to examine dosage and long-term efficacy. Medicine is not a set and forget science thankfully.

      Just like trying to tell us repeatedly that a personal vaccination choice will do little to protect others – because a vaccinated person can still catch and transmit the virus – it’s the information that is omitted that conveys the misinformation. We all tend to think we have a leasehold on the high moral ground.


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