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I received two pieces of propaganda in my mail box over the weekend.  One was from Yes23 Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition and included the Uluru statement.  Nice.

The other was addressed, ‘Dear Neighbour’ but did not have any details as to whom it was from… I was annoyed by this as it was directed at me because I have two ‘Yes’ signs on my fence – and yet this person or group did not identify themselves.

My response to the ‘Dear Neighbour’ is as follows:

Dear Neighbour, please have the courtesy and conviction of your beliefs to name yourself.  How dare you assume that my decision to support the Voice to parliament is not considerably well thought through. I have listened to First Nations people, both for and against the Voice and have made my decision. I find your words shallow, sensationalist and wrong! I am not a communist, I am a socialist!

Karen Hodder, Mullumbimby


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32 COMMENTS

  1. Also not into democracy. Campaigning will only last one more week, I’m sure you’ll survive. But using an anti-White racial slur against someone because you disagree with their political campaign, that’s going to stick to you. It’s a one way street with the Echo editorial staff.

  2. Karen, if you have the conviction and foresight to vote YES, then you have no need to explain yourself to some knucklehead from the NO camp who is obviously only trying to intimidate you.

    • Did anyone bother to compare these ‘letters’ that have been received by those with Yes signs, and see if they happen to be identical? Have you held one up to the light to see if they happen to be printed, with a laser printer, in a blue hand-writing font? Could some minimum wage kid on a scooter be being paid to drop this campaign material in the letterboxes of anyone with a Yes sign on their property?

  3. Never in my time have i seen the country so
    Divided regarding the Voice proposal..
    The Prime Minister will lose some ground
    Thus far it has been a disaster…

    • So we should never attempt any change because it might create differing views? Debate is healthy surely unless it becomes mired in political opportunism, mis/disinformation, personal abuse and conspiracy theories. Oh – and the rewriting of history.

      • That’s a very good argument for re-instituting the White Australia Policy. Some of you political opportunists would mis/dis/conspiracy/abuse, but that’s no reason to forego a policy that has proven to solve housing, low wage, unemployment, and social cohesiveness problems.

        • Your leaps of logic are truly astounding Christian but
          I’m not suggesting the avoidance of initiative action because it will invite mis/disinformation etc – unfortunately that’s all probably inevitable. Magnified in potential these days by instant messaging.

          • To Subject the nation to vote on this Voice proposal is turning friends against Friends..Neighbourhoods against Neighbourhoods etc.. and to think The yes campaign has been nasty at best By the very one’s on the selected list To head the voice ..and other high Profile celebrities…appalling behaviours..This in itself has swayed many undecided To vote no .. regardless the No vote Has a majority it seems ..that’s Democracy.. not Racist !

    • Barrow, in less than a year Emperor Albo has taken YesVoice support that was in the 60’s% down to around 40% now.
      The YesVoice Referendum looks dead.
      It does takes some kind of skill on the part of Emperor Albo to tank the support but its not just YesVoice numbers tanking, Emperor Albo’s approval numbers going south as well. ‘Oncer Albo’, looking odds on come Election 2025.

      • Joachim old son you are at again, nothing more than wild accusations as usual, and don’t forget it was the ruminating Greens that did not even support it at first, remember Lidia Thorpe?, Albo has stuck to his convictions right through the whole messy campaign, if the hopeless Greens had a leader equally capable of leading they may not be so irrelevent.

        • So Keith, the tanked YesVoice ‘Numbers’ under your man Albo’s stewardship, what is it that you are incapable of comprehending?

          • Joachim, what is it about my post you don’t want to address? Where have the Greens been? There’s been nothing stopping them taking a leading role and showing how it’s done.

            Oh except for factionalism perhaps?

            But do tell us how it should have been done differently, then tell Adam.

          • Lizardbreath, don’t you worry about Leader Adam.
            He has been busy in South Australia the last week campaigning for YesVoice.

          • Good on Adam Bandt for his efforts, but the Greens have been late to the party. How you can join in with the coalition and Dutton’s strategy to make this all about Labor and its leader (for pure politics) is absolutely beyond me – notwithstanding your pathological aversion.

            The Right though might just win the battle and lose the war. Will their antics win back the Teal seats? Unlikely!

          • LIzardbreath, on the ‘Teal seats’ and Voice.
            The Daily Telegraph has done some work to look at ‘Federal seats’ and the Voice.
            NoVoice support is very strong and over 50% in some of the ‘Teal seats’.
            But the big worry for YesVoice In the Daily Telegraph’s analysis , ‘How Australia’s electorates are expected to vote in the Voice referendum, James Morrow, October 12, 2023 – 12:49PM”,….
            ” just 22 out of 151 federal electorates are home to a majority of likely “yes” voters.”

            I’m not enjoying Dutton smashing Albo off the park but that’s the reality, Albo has taken a 60s% YesVoice support and tanked it to around 40% YesVoice, YesVoice is dead, buried and cremated.

            Albo and his army of advisers had plenty of time to get their lines right but they’ve been walloped by Team Dutton / FUD that Rupert/Lachlan Media Empire have happily peddled to the punters.

          • The YES vote tanked when it became clear there would not be bipartisan support and when the campaign of fear ramped up in earnest. Very hard to combat BS

          • It’s not about what you’re enjoying or not Joachim, it’s about politics above policy and you willingly allowing yourself to be sucked into the ruse. Being happy to play along with it.

      • I’ve explained to you before Joachim that the PM, while pro YES, is not leading the YES campaign. It would be presumptuous of him to do so having not been the real origin of the request and proposal.

        There is nothing stopping individuals joining in the campaigning however, as Albo has done. There would be nothing stopping a charismatic person from the Greens, with brilliant powers of oratory – and much better ideas – taking over the lead and swaying the masses at the 11th hour.

        If there are any such candidates please don’t be coy – the Voice needs you.

        Possibilities include press conferences, the National Press Club and other organised public events. However I’ve found the Greens leadership in the campaign, missing in action! 🤔

          • Christian, give Albo a call, he needs all the help he can get right now as he whizzes around the nation drumming up YesVoice support.

          • That makes a lot of sense Christian, I’ve thought for a while that the best arguments for the Voice are coming out of the No campaign.

            If that’s where you still are. Or have you had a road to Damascus experience?

  4. Poor Karen, you are a victim – no less.
    I have an Australian flag displayed on my property as my comment on ‘The Voice’.
    I was abused over it last week by three ‘Yes’-stickered youths in a drive-by exchange.
    (Sniff, sob!]
    But it’s still there…

    • Aren’t you playing the victim here. Anyway why the flag as I know I live in Australia and don’t need to wave a flag to remind me, too much American fake nationalism. Save it for important events like Anzac Day.

      • I have the Eureka and Federation flags at my front gate. Being out in the middle of nowhere, everyone already knows, but just in case they forget. My neighbour has the Union Jack and Federal flag, right next to mine.

  5. Rod, are you kidding?. Flying our flag represents pride in our country, our democracy, our freedom. You should try it some time. One day when it has gone you will wish you had thought a little harder about it. Don’t be embarrassed to show your pride in being an Aussie.

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