The destruction and slaughter of our native forests is paid for with our taxpayers’ dollars, twenty-two million are given to Forestry Corporation in NSW, while they woodchip the trees for twenty-two cents per tree. This has to stop now.
10.3 billion taxpayer dollars have been given as subsidies to the fossil fuel industries in 2020–21, these companies don’t pay tax at all. Isn’t it time that we stop the funding which destroys our environment and future generations’ life expectancy?
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Chibo. At it again. List some of these subsidies. I think your lying but please prove me wrong.
The hardwood division with in NSW Forestry Corp has been propped up by gov subsidies for years, if operating at a loss for so long why does this industry continue? See economic analysis by economist Judith Ajani at ANU.
In business , running at a loss does not make sense. Must be a big political reason why it’s still continuing. Where are the plantations on already cleared and degraded , eroding lands ? 90% already cleared. The other 10 % was the wasted useless land they didn’t want. But now they want it. Why can’t they at least leave that last remaining bit alone ?
I should have been more clear. I’m referring to the lie that the fossil fuel industries receiving 10.3B in subsidies. The Australia Institute and similar left organizations have been very successful propagating this nonsense and the lie has been lapped up by people who hate facts and truth challenging their narrative. Their success comes from reinventing the meaning of words. The diesel fuel rebate is not a subsidy. Tax deductions for business inputs are not subsidies.
Clive Palmer . I rest my case there . As a primary producer I can buy fuel at a big discount as long as I buy in bulk. And so I should. I povide essential food to the nation. If I want to buy a new ute , I pay about 30 grand ish, where as you pay 50 . After 5 years I can sell that ute to my neighbour for 25 grand . Or give em a bargain and sell it for 15 grand . I’m still ahead cause it’s a tax deduction. As long as I’m making a lot of money. If I don’t then I’ll have to sell it for more. ….. As a coal, gas, oil company , I pay no tax , cause it costs me a lot to set it up. But, I could be paying 5 or 10 % on the profits . That would go a long way to buying solar panels for the local schools and public buildings . And what’s wrong with that . Giving local farmers a hand up is fine , but giving overseas companies a hand up is just blatant brown nosing , for what , behind the scenes donation or a plum job on the board. Is the conservative world just sucking up donald trumps style of doing it. What a total maniac he is. My dad who was in new guineavbbbb used to say , ” Never trust the yanks , they’re like a bunch of colledge kids on holidays . Bicker and fight with each other more than they fight the enemy . Bomb themselves then bomb us , before they finally get it right and bomb the japs. They don’t mind losing men , trigger happy Cowboys , where as we looked at it and figured out how to do it with the least amount of risk. Only listened to our own officers , not theirs . And the officers listened to us cause we knew the ground . The conservative money goes to the US, South Africa , well they all moved but it’s still them , China . England Netherlands . Not us. We get a pittance . Tony abbots and johnie howards buddies . We’ve got enough oil to look after ourselves , we don’t need to give it to the overseas billionaires . But that’s what we do, as a nation. Something has to change quick. We should mine it ourselves . No profits to go overseas . A simple equation , and benefitting us, not them. To much greed and corruption .Something has to change. It’s about time isn’t it ?
Phil. Keep it short, keep it simple and stay on topic. I haven’t got time to work out where your coming from.
Ok yeah , I got that . I’ll try.. Thanks for pointing that out. …….. Just read that in the 70 s , they wanted to build an all new, latest technology , modern , best Practise , brand new biggest wood chip mill in Eden. Heaps of people were against it. Bulk protesters , thousands, for a long time. A few years . I can remember hearing about it on the surfy grapevine. Somehow I think we were the original greenies cause it was us that protested in the late 60 s early 70’s to get the ocean out falls built at Bondi , manly , warriewood etc . You’d be going for an early morning when the tide and wind were right to get an uncrowded surf. Tide would have an hour to full and big turds and condoms would be floating in amongst us out the back . It was gross. You’d get covered in oil and fat. When you came in for a cold shower on the beach it didn’t work. Just slime all over you. You’d have to bolt home for a hot soapy shower to get it off. But it lasted in your hair for a while. Totally gross. It was cause of us protesting that they built those out falls. Tunnels under the sea bed 3 kilometres out to sea. Al the sh#t still goes up and down the coast , only further out. Well , mostly. Some poor north or south of Sydney beach would get oiled occasionally. .. I didn’t go down there but eventually they built the wood chip . Heavily logged from the border to Eden and further north a bit inland up to about Nowra . Within A day’s drive there and back for a semi. They logged each area at about 10, 20 to 30 year frequency . Take the cream and leave the tiny ones for 10 years then come back. . Encouraging 20 to 30 year old gum trees . A sapling really. About as thick as a telegraph pole and 40 to 60 ft tall. Not much useful timber in it really , to much sap wood. But perfect for wood chip. Easy to harvest and transport.. …… Eventually all that forest got thin and clear with a lot of rubbish wood on the ground left over by the loggers. Plus fast growing fire prone species like black butt. Drop a lot of bark and branches. …….. So,, 50 years down the track ,, 2019,,, New Year’s Eve 2020. The fire wipes out Mallacoota and crosses the border with the dry dry sou westerlies behind it . In 12 hours in jumps 100 ks . And threatening Eden . At Kia on the southern side of the harbour , only just saved it. Just inside the southern point , wipes out the wood chip mill. Kinda poetic justice there somehow . They caused it , and it got them in the end . I wonder how many old locals would be thinking that. So the fire keeps going , in the hills behind Pambula and further north to where the steep ridge tops ( side branches of the great divide ) big mountains close to the coast converge to a little long valley . So just before midnight on New Year’s Eve the Main Street of Quaamaa and Cobargo , it’s a bush fire in the Main Street. Wipes out both towns . .. Point is,, it all gets sold overseas . Whoever makes the decisions doesn’t care about the local areas and how that’s going to impact the local people. There’s not even any profit in it. It’s a waste. They’re running at a loss. And a butchery , it’s a butchery . . They don’t care about koalas . Last priority . Worst Practise . ….. They collect the taxes for years then when a disaster they created happens they say ,, well, why build there in the first place . Talk about being verbaled and gas lighted . Bunch of interfering narcissists. We’re ok mate ,, we’re cleaning up. We don’t care if you arnt. You shouldn’t have moved there in the first place. It’s not our fault . It’s your fault . ………… ….. Needs to be a change . Not the same old same old. Wolves looking after the sheep and cattle . It’s not right . Someone needs to do something about it. In a non violent way of course. Happy Easter and peace to the world. A time of forgiveness . Father forgive them for they know not what they do. Forgive … And be at peace . A time of fun and rejoicing .. Happy Ramadan and happy Passover … Celebrate your music in the open air. And save the forests and koalas and by doing that you save yourselves in the long run, and your kids and grandkids.