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Jo Faith, Newtown

Regarding the debate surrounding nudists, sexual predators and safe spaces for women on beaches. As this debate continues may I suggest that Council consider adopting former Councillor Ronda Ellis’ suggestion of creating Tyagarah Beach as a clothes-optional space exclusively for women.  As no doubt this debate shall continue if male predatory behaviour is not seriously addressed and ceases.

This would introduce the status of affirmative action for women who wish to be free from the male gaze. It would also create the first space in the Shire where women could feel safe from predatory behaviour.

A precedent already exists for this possibility. Coogee Baths in Sydney has for many decades been designated as a woman’s only space. Male attempts to change this status have failed. To this day it remains and operates in affirmative status. A safe space for women to swim, heal and enjoy nature, totally free from social pressures. Council could approach Coogee Council and seek management information and apply Coogee model to Byron.


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9 COMMENTS

  1. Tyagarah Dillema
    I have the perfect solution. at the carpark near the beach have a sign.To the left is clothing
    option and to the right is clothes only, or either way around, and a 50 meter buffer zone
    either side have clothing only going to the carpark, that way everybody can be happy, if the dogs
    can do it us humans can too..as John Lennon said…there is only SOLUTIONS.

  2. The Coogee Baths have nearby baths that are unrestricted, so there is no lack of options – it’s great to have a female only set of baths in that case. But making Tyagarah female only would close the last nude beach available to residents of Brisbane (Alex Bay is no longer clothing optional) to half of the population, so wouldn’t be a win. If you can’t have a place where people of all backgrounds can feel safe to be naked together, what is the point?

    • Hi Clint,

      Agreed with much of what you have said here, except for the fact that A Bay has never been officially made a clothes optional beach.

      Though the police have stopped hassling innocent beach goers according to the QNA.

  3. Lets mske it male only.

    I can hear the ladies screaming thats unfair.

    My wife and i go there together.

    So thats a stupid suggestion.

    It needs to be closer to town. Tallow would be ideal.

  4. No Faith this is so wrong that genuine Naturist males are assumed to be a threat to women. At your suggestion, Why should those males that have clearly done the right thing and discouraged all lewd inappropriate sexual behaviour be now banished from Tyagarah Clothing Optional Beach. This is clearly discrimation against males and I truly hope that all realise this. If I decide to go to Tyagarah with a male partner or friend, why should this be taken away.
    Clearly this has not been thought through.
    Byron Naturists have for the last 12 months been active guardians of Tyagarah Clothing Optional Beach.
    This expressed opinion is just scaremongering.

  5. And where exactly in this area do you suggest that my wife and I (and many other couples) can continue to go to enjoy our naked days at the beach – or is that not important ??

  6. Personally I believe that all beaches should be clothing optional and innocent public nudity shouldn’t be a crime as is the case in New Zealand, England, Spain, Netherlands, Iceland just to name a few. However, In all the vast klms of coastline in Australia we must fight for the bare minimum amount of space to be at one with nature in our natural state.

    So now do we divide up the mere 800 metres of Tyagarah beach allocated along gender lines? Perhaps we should be more specific too.

    Lets say 100 metres to women who don’t want men looking at them, 100 metres to straight men who don’t want men looking at them, 100 metres to gay man who don’t want women looking at them. 100 metres to families who don’t want anyone looking at their kids, 100 metres to couples who think singles must be perverts, 100 metres to young people who think old people are sleazy old pervs, 100 metres for old nudists who just don’t understand young people, and then 100 metres where everyone is included and accepted without judgement.

    This has to policed of course. Yes, we should be able to distinguish the men from the women, the old from the young, the families from the singles. I’m assuming we’ll just have to interrogate the rest.

    I’m just a bit confused of where to sit. I can’t sit with my nudist mate because of his sexuality. I can’t sit with my other nudist mate… he’s still trying to sit with his missus who is sitting in the women’s zone and he’s now been reported as a pervert. I’m not quite old enough to be in the old peoples 100mt zone and not young enough for the hipster nudies zone. I’ll just go and sit in the extremely overcrowded 100mt zone of acceptance and inclusion and make some real nudist friends there.

  7. The problem of Tyagara being clothes optional is its remoteness, which makes it a prime target for the damaged victims of our sexually repressive old world social system. The problem could be solved by making public beaches clothes optional, much safer. Provision for those who believe we have bodies with ‘dirty bits’ could be made by declaring Tyagara clothing compulsory.
    Do we have bodies with ‘dirty bits’ or is that a deliberate piece of body shaming manipulation?
    We knew this stuff 50 years ago but whilst the movement spawned by the social revolution of the 60s and 70s has been growing well with over 90% of people now environmentally concerned, it grew organically, not at all organised. On the other hand the wealthy and influential with a vested interest in the status quo certainly noticed and have been thoroughly organised. They’ve engaged in a relentless process of reinforcing conservatism. The finest legal and political systems money can buy, aided by the finest mainstream media money can buy, have done an excellent job of it but the outcome is inevitable. We either transition to a sustainable future or, as is rapidly becoming obvious, unsustainable is terminal.
    Regarding ourselves as unworthy pieces of shit with ‘dirty bits’ is probably unsustainable.

  8. Interesting concept Robin: “making public beaches clothing optional” excellent idea provided it applies to the Shire’s patrolled beaches, but I doubt it will ever happen.
    But “declaring Tyagarah clothing compulsory” will be applauded by most Grays Lane residents and some Councilors as well. It would certainly reduce the traffic on Grays Lane and Black Rock Road, reduce the expense of repairing and grading the roads and save the NPWS the trouble of emptying the $8 parking fee box. Regular policing expense of Tyagarah could be somewhat offset by the $500 fines imposed for obscene behavior issued to any people who foolishly decide to be naked at the beach. A win for everyone !

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